i wanted to know if anyone was from that area or lived there..
I want to thank all who posted to this thread! It made me feel so much better! I now realize that my instincts were right and that I really was seeing these things. I had wondered if I had become cynical about people. Well NOW I KNOW WHY! There WAS a reason why I didn't trust those people! To actually have posts about the people in that congregation that I knew and treated me badly back then. What a gift you all have given me!
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we moved into an apartment on the 2nd floor.
we were jws at the time, and the family on the first floor under us was studying.. the girl downstairs started hearing noises during the night and finally hearing steps up to the side of her bed.
she was so scared she hadn't slept in a while and was so tired.
Carla,
Yes, I know those pictures don't burn. They have that photographic coating on them. That is why I had mentioned that the pictures were glossy and glued into the book. If you had been there with the loud praying and the pictures popping... it was a freeky atmosphere!
Looking back on it now, I see how we were all 'hiped' out. I mean, we felt paralized about helping ourselves! I am not sure what I would do now if it happened again. I guess I would look for the newest item I had brought into the house and get rid of it????
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i work in a bookstore that specializes in buying its goods directly from the public second-hand and reselling them at half price.. .
it is a large chain of 83 stores in 8 states and does about 100 million a year.. .
i'm in charge of the religion and the philosophy sections.. .
Terry,
That is why politics and religion are not good PUBLIC topics! People get emotional and irrational about their beliefs.
Lesson learned: There is no exception, especially at WORK or in public! Your old JW training came into play in trying to use 'words' to battle words both sides from research and books. What is in your heart should come out calmly. That woman had no love in her heart, just a fight or battle to win. No point going down that road! By the way, I am not going to pray for you! No need...
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i was a teenager i bought a ouigja board and my sisters and i played with it.
it scared us so much we threw it away!
but, i was forwarned about it, so i guess i could have driven myself to madness with my own mind!
M.J. Thanks for that link. I read it and it is interesting. I liked the fact:
when the operator is properly blindfolded, only gibberish is produced.
very interesting. ideomotor effect http://skepdic.com/ideomotor.html. Thanks!
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who made up the words "the truth" .
if this was an invention, they would be millionaires.
being called the truth really sets the statement apart from lets say.....the lies.
It is a great 'hook' word. It caught me because I heard it and thought "I will finally know what is real and the truth". After all the Catholic church only really did 'ritual' type services with short sermans that had nothing to do with me. I thought this would be more personal...
Oh yes, it was more personal, too personal and not enough 'truth' was ever said. I kept asking questions, and they would tell me (a woman) to be quiet. How could that ever be the truth? I figured out it was a 'title' for what they thought they had as a religion. They used that word truth as a noun and a title to elevate that cult status of theirs. For them it is never more than that.
Defending truth is not passive, when the truth is told it is more of something people would die for.
By the way, TRUTH should not be gender specific!
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i was a teenager i bought a ouigja board and my sisters and i played with it.
it scared us so much we threw it away!
but, i was forwarned about it, so i guess i could have driven myself to madness with my own mind!
I was a teenager I bought a Ouigja board and my sisters and I played with it. It scared us so much we threw it away!
But, I was forwarned about it, so I guess I could have driven myself to madness with my own mind! ha ha!
Anyone here play with one?
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i was amazed how, in a matter of days after leaving the org, my heart seemed bigger.
i was free to love people - truly love them as they were and without condition.
i was no longer required to sit in judgement of them because they didn't believe as i did.
my little brother turned 23 today (they grow up so fast).
its been, lets seeabout 3 years since i last saw him; a little over a year since i talked to him.
i heard he got married.
I feel for ya doogie. My little sister has not talked to me in 5 years or so. She is 48. I was suddenly obsolete! She had become a JW along with me and we both left. Now she is on her own and won't talk to my other sister or me. It is sad when your 'little sibling' won't communicate. Hang in there, they will become older someday, and who knows we may get a call or a note?
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we moved into an apartment on the 2nd floor.
we were jws at the time, and the family on the first floor under us was studying.. the girl downstairs started hearing noises during the night and finally hearing steps up to the side of her bed.
she was so scared she hadn't slept in a while and was so tired.
Ingenuous,
I am not sure what book he read from. It was a JW publication he probably just happened to have in his truck.
I have seen visions now and then, nothing to be afraid of. But, all 'demonic' stuff happened to me while I was a JW. The gal I studied with used to refer to Satan a lot (Gail Monroe) and maybe that was why I had a problem. That could by why I had to get a psychologist to de-program me too. I thought all the demons were going to come after me like in that movie 'Ghost' when the black spirits attacked only the guilty ones dying. Ha ha!
That elder, Sonny, surprised everyone by committing suicide. Somebody made a comment that he was barred from the New System after that and all that he did good was wiped out!!! (A JW said this) I am sure that made his funeral a fun place to be! (I did not go, I was way out by then.)
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i was amazed how, in a matter of days after leaving the org, my heart seemed bigger.
i was free to love people - truly love them as they were and without condition.
i was no longer required to sit in judgement of them because they didn't believe as i did.
Ingenuous,
What a good thread! I would like to think that I have a bigger heart. And, I share it with those I trust. Trust that has been earned not dictated so that I am set up for a fall. What you see is what you get!!!
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